We consider extended spiking neural P systems with the additional possibility of so-called "white hole rules", which send the complete contents of a neuron to other neurons, and we prove that this extension of the original model can easily simulate register machines. Based on this proof, we then define red-green variants of these extended spiking neural P systems with white hole rules and show how to go beyond Turing with these red-green systems. We also discuss the number of actor neurons needed, and the relation of this model to some special variants of Lindenmayer systems.